GarethBrown wrote:Tommy88 wrote:UKLaxfan wrote:This is what the argument comes down to each time... it's not fair
Durham University have done nothing wrong, the players have done nothing wrong
Durham recognised an opportunity to dominate a new BUCS sport and took advantage of it
I dont want to come across as saying either Durham or their players have done anything wrong, as you said Durham saw an opportunity and took it. Plus, if I was an NCAA player and saw the chance to study at a university as good as Durham and play lax with very talented players I would jump at the chance. I am simply looking at the long term, I believe if a sort of cap is not introduced one of two things are going to happen, either 1) Durham are going to continue to recruit NCAA players who have just come from playing for a D1,D2 or D3 college where they train every day at the highest level, they then beat this countries best university teams such as sheffield by 20+ goals and win the BUCS gold every year. Or 2) other university's begin to follow suit and then these teams dominate their leagues and the knockout rounds, with most English players struggling to get any play in these teams. I am simply saying that if the durham team today had half the Americans they have in that team, plus half of their second team they would still have a very good shot at winning BUCS gold and the English players would get some great playing experience and be able to say they won a BUCS gold. I am not trying to infuse another forum page full of anti Durham posts, what I am trying to get at is that I believe university's in this country should be more interested in recruiting some of our talented young club players, that way we can not only improve the standard of university lacrosse in this country, but also its a great chance to offer good education to young lax players, Basically it would be nice to see more teams like the Sheffield University's, Nottingham and Portsmouth (who have just got a group of Blues players who are helping the University's programme a lot). I am only trying to suggest what I think would improve University lacrosse in England, not ridicule Durham for what they are doing.
You've gone absolutely mental if you think that in the current funding climate universities are going to start throwing money around for lacrosse players!!!
I'm not saying I don't agree with you, but it's very unrealistic to suggest. I'm not sure how the structure at Durham works, financially, but I can only assume they are recruiting American players onto undersubscribed courses, which would mean they are actually gaining money rather than, as appears on the face of it, losing it.
I wouldn't say I have gone "absolutely mental" lol. As mentioned, the Durham players are not here on free rides, simply reduced fee's, they are still paying a lot of money to study at Durham so the university is gaining money. It was the impressive programme that attracted them, according to their website the players get a number of sporting privileges. But still you could be rite, in the current climate other University's could not manage to do this. My argument is that more universitys should be striving to get talented English players on sports scholarships, I know in the future thats what we want to do.
webby wrote:Rumours have it that the American and English players last year asked the Durham AU for LESS Americans - somewhere around 5 - but the AU went and brought in 13...
Will be interesting as to what numbers they bring in next year, or if they offer similar deals to other international-based lacrosse stars.
my point exactly, I believe that with the team they have been building in their 2s and 3s they will still be contenders next year even with less americans.....but perhaps by smaller scorlines.