ProLaxShop

Germany promoted to Blue Division

Moderator: ELA Staff

DanSawyer
Posts: 959
Joined: Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:36 pm
gender: Male
Contact:

Germany promoted to Blue Division

Postby DanSawyer Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:45 pm

This is not an exhibition match now. Germany have been promoted to the Blue Division. Not sure how that affects the play-ins later.
Chichester Crusaders Coach.
Portsmouth Uni #66 - once upon a time.
Southampton Sabres #66 - a long time ago.
Army #7 - Tri-Services 2009

Coming soon to a sideline near you, complete with camera.
User avatar
rpowell
League Mod
League Mod
Posts: 410
Joined: Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:58 pm
gender: Male

Re: Germany promoted to Blue Division

Postby rpowell Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:15 pm

Couple of possibilities:

1) Iroquois never make it. In which case everything is as before, but Germany's old division only has three teams.

2) Iroquois make it, but late. Iroquois could potentially be moved into Germany's old division. From there they would have to win all their games, and work their way through the various knock-out rounds, to get a chace of a play-in match to the semi-final.

If the organisers were to go for this option, then realistically the Iroquois could just about afford to miss the game against Spain tomorrow, but would have to be here by 6pm on Saturday to play Hong Kong: enough goal difference, and they would qualify by being one of the best 2nd place teams in the various lower level divisions.
DanSawyer
Posts: 959
Joined: Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:36 pm
gender: Male
Contact:

Re: Germany promoted to Blue Division

Postby DanSawyer Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:19 pm

Correct but you miss an important point. Let's say red division has only three teams because the Iroquois don't turn up. After initial round Robin, the division winners and the top two second placed teams go into a division together. The remaining seconds and top thirds form another division, with the rest forming a third.

So how do you pick the top second teams when red division have only played two games each? They won't have as many points or goals as teams who've played three games.
Chichester Crusaders Coach.
Portsmouth Uni #66 - once upon a time.
Southampton Sabres #66 - a long time ago.
Army #7 - Tri-Services 2009

Coming soon to a sideline near you, complete with camera.
User avatar
mandy
Admin
Admin
Posts: 3485
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:13 pm
gender: Male
Contact:

Re: Germany promoted to Blue Division

Postby mandy Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:25 pm

Presumably you just take the one from that group

After all the top seed from that group is no longer in it
ahhh ... the whit
User avatar
rpowell
League Mod
League Mod
Posts: 410
Joined: Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:58 pm
gender: Male

Re: Germany promoted to Blue Division

Postby rpowell Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:31 pm

mandy wrote:Presumably you just take the one from that group

After all the top seed from that group is no longer in it

Your point is simply and elegantly made.

I think it's even right :)
DanSawyer
Posts: 959
Joined: Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:36 pm
gender: Male
Contact:

Re: Germany promoted to Blue Division

Postby DanSawyer Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:42 pm

So two of the three go into the top division? The fact that the top seed has gone is a reason not to pick them. The top team goes through, but the second as well?
Chichester Crusaders Coach.
Portsmouth Uni #66 - once upon a time.
Southampton Sabres #66 - a long time ago.
Army #7 - Tri-Services 2009

Coming soon to a sideline near you, complete with camera.
User avatar
rpowell
League Mod
League Mod
Posts: 410
Joined: Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:58 pm
gender: Male

Re: Germany promoted to Blue Division

Postby rpowell Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:54 pm

DanSawyer wrote:So two of the three go into the top division? The fact that the top seed has gone is a reason not to pick them. The top team goes through, but the second as well?

No, I think what Mandy is suggesting is that only one team would go forward out of that three team group.

It's a good deal - previously it would have been Germany plus _maybe_ another team, if the second-placed side was better off in terms of points, goal difference and/or goals scored than most of the other second placed teams.

Go with Mandy's idea, and with Germany out of the way, the team that would have come second now has a 100% chance of the top team going through.
DanSawyer
Posts: 959
Joined: Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:36 pm
gender: Male
Contact:

Re: Germany promoted to Blue Division

Postby DanSawyer Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:12 am

Oh, I see. So 'just the one' team go through rather than 'just take the one' that comes second on that division.
Yes, that sounds fair.
Chichester Crusaders Coach.
Portsmouth Uni #66 - once upon a time.
Southampton Sabres #66 - a long time ago.
Army #7 - Tri-Services 2009

Coming soon to a sideline near you, complete with camera.
DanSawyer
Posts: 959
Joined: Tue Apr 03, 2007 6:36 pm
gender: Male
Contact:

Re: Germany promoted to Blue Division

Postby DanSawyer Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:18 am

That said, what about deciding which are the top third placed teams? Do we think that division just automatically count as bottom end? So one team to each division?
Chichester Crusaders Coach.
Portsmouth Uni #66 - once upon a time.
Southampton Sabres #66 - a long time ago.
Army #7 - Tri-Services 2009

Coming soon to a sideline near you, complete with camera.

Return to “FIL World Championships”

Monster Mesh

Monster Mesh

Login · Register