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String length

Postby laxgod Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:15 pm

Rule changes - I know that the powers that be brought in the String length rule at the start of the 11/12 season, but with all that needs to be improved in our game is this really necessary - yes one injury from a string in the eye is too many but has anyone experienced any injury like this? what about strings on gloves or helmets??? what brought about the rule change?

I like a little flow on the shooting string!
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Re: String length

Postby DanSawyer Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:28 am

What is lost by this rule? It doesn't exactly stop you improving other aspects...

And who has strings on their helmet?
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Re: String length

Postby young_trig Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:00 am

I think the point is that the stick picks up a lot of velocity during passing, shooting, and throwing checks.
The gloves never pick up the same speed, nor do they go that far from the body.
Only old school helmets have the strings still but again they will never pick up any concerning amount of velocity.

Lots need to be improved in our game, agreed, but whats the harm in introducing the string length rule if it could potentially increase safety?

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Re: String length

Postby laxgod Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:49 pm

Who has string on their helmet?? you havent played the game very long have you Mr Sawyer!
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Re: String length

Postby DanSawyer Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:50 pm

laxgod wrote:Who has string on their helmet?? you havent played the game very long have you Mr Sawyer!


Not long enough to remember lace-up helmets, no!
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Re: String length

Postby dblacklock Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:13 pm

You have to remember guys that rule changes are managed by the FIL and that England is one vote at the table, although they do have two members on the FIL Rules Committee who review all proposals prior to them going to the nations to vote on. I too am included on this committee as the FiL Officiating Chair.

This rule is there for health and safety. We are not concerned about strigs on gloves, shoes or helmets (yes Dan there used to be strings on helmets), but rather something that could cause injury.
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Re: String length

Postby laxgod Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:07 pm

What a crock! I dont see the difference in getting whipped in the eye with a string on a stick or a glove?
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Re: String length

Postby young_trig Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:16 pm

laxgod wrote:What a crock! I dont see the difference in getting whipped in the eye with a string on a stick or a glove?


Eh? You being serious?
There is obviously a difference. The reality is that you cannot get "whipped" from a string on a glove, it will never really get up enough speed.

As for a stick, it can clearly get up plenty of angular speed when shooting or throwing a check.

So there's the difference

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Re: String length

Postby dblacklock Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:39 pm

Thanks Trig. Thought it was just me. Obvious difference in whipping of a string from a stick going at x speed (Engineers please insert x) then that of a glove a -x (same calculation please).
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Re: String length

Postby UKLaxfan Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:14 pm

laxgod wrote:What a crock! I dont see the difference in getting whipped in the eye with a string on a stick or a glove?


:shock: :shock: :shock:

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Re: String length

Postby DanSawyer Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:31 pm

Again, I've only been playing a few years, but in my experience it's also more common to have a stick head hit you in the helmet than a glove, so the strings on the head would be the greater risk.
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Re: String length

Postby Blind Zebra Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:09 pm

In well over 100 years of playing Lacrosse in the UK, is there any record of anyone ever being injured by a string on a lacrosse stick?!

Has some other country in the ILF suffered an outbreak of such injuries?

Is there any evidence that this rule is needed?

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Re: String length

Postby davidmcculloch81 Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:15 pm

dblacklock wrote:Thanks Trig. Thought it was just me. Obvious difference in whipping of a string from a stick going at x speed (Engineers please insert x) then that of a glove a -x (same calculation please).


Go on then. Tangential velocity is proportional to radius. Stick is around twice the distance from the body of the gloves. Therefore whip of head strings twice that of glove strings.
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Re: String length

Postby DanSawyer Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:42 pm

Still not sure what the problem with this rule is. Cut your strings. Burn the ends. Done
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Re: String length

Postby buckers_the_great Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:52 am

DanSawyer wrote:Still not sure what the problem with this rule is. Cut your strings. Burn the ends. Done


Agreed.

Next people will be complaining about head checks or tripping. They are all official rules, get on with it.
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