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Rage Cage/Goals

Postby GANDALF Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:33 pm

How much are rage cages these day, the club ones?
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Re: Rage Cage/Goals

Postby mikehmlax6 Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:08 pm

Mine was £300 when I bought it at Christmas
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Re: Rage Cage/Goals

Postby Chilli Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:04 pm

If you're buying for use in league games, please remember that the new rules require goals with flat ground pipes.
Don't waste money buying 'old' style round pipes.
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Re: Rage Cage/Goals

Postby lax_mad_webborn Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:10 am

Chilli wrote:If you're buying for use in league games, please remember that the new rules require goals with flat ground pipes.
Don't waste money buying 'old' style round pipes.


There are no other specs are there?

Just flat based?

Swansea are looking to get two new goals that fit the regulations for next season.
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Re: Rage Cage/Goals

Postby GANDALF Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:18 am

Why do they need to be flat? (Not looking for league goals just curious about prices)
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Re: Rage Cage/Goals

Postby Chilli Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:42 am

The new rules, officially introduced from September 2011, require goal uprights to be either sunk into the ground or supported by flat basepipes.

SEMLA was granted a dispensation for all clubs until the start of the 2012-3 season but since many clubs cannot afford to buy new goals now and have perfectly good goals already, SEMLA has now requested a further dispensation until clubs replace goals when they need to.
This has not yet been confirmed, hence no notice has been advised to the clubs.

However, it makes sense, if you're spending money on goals for league use to get the correct ones now.
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Re: Rage Cage/Goals

Postby GANDALF Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:41 am

Thanks for the heads up but what I really meant was "Why the change?" what's wrong with the current type?
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Re: Rage Cage/Goals

Postby dom#10 Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:18 am

GANDALF wrote:Thanks for the heads up but what I really meant was "Why the change?" what's wrong with the current type?

at the moment the ball can go in the goal but hit one of the ground pipes and bounce out. By having flat pipes, the ball, having crossed the line, would be less likely to come out, removing any uncertainty as to whether a goal had been scored or not.
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Re: Rage Cage/Goals

Postby Chilli Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:28 am

Exactly Dom, thanks for clarifying the answer.

Although it is an exceptionally rare event in my experience, it is possible for a ball to hit the ground pipe and bounce back out again with obvious consequences for referees and players.
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Re: Rage Cage/Goals

Postby GANDALF Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:49 pm

It does seem to be quite a rarity, are these international rules we're falling in line with then? That's a huge expenditure for an event that rarely happens and when it does how often is it a game changer? Hillcroft have flat ground plate goals already luckily.
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Re: Rage Cage/Goals

Postby Chilli Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:03 pm

Yes they are FIL rules and yes it's exceptionally rare.
The cost reason is clearly why SEMLA is asking for a dispensation until Clubs need to buy new goals.
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Re: Rage Cage/Goals

Postby GANDALF Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:12 pm

Massively appreciated it is too! Do the replacement goals have to carry any special certification or could you essentially take the dimensions of a goal to a mate who owns a blow torch and some scrap metal???
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Re: Rage Cage/Goals

Postby Chilli Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:25 pm

Here's the rules concerning the goals, you can make your own as long as they meet these specs, there's no official certification scheme;


RULE 2 THE GOALS

2.1 Each goal shall consist of two vertical posts joined by a rigid cross-bar.
These posts shall be 6 feet (1.83 metres) apart and the top cross-bar shall be 6 feet (1.83 metres) from the ground; all inside measurements.
The goal posts and cross-bar shall be collectively designated the pipes.

2.2 The goal posts shall be centred and shall be placed 80 yards (73.15 metres) apart and 15 yards (13.72 metres) from each end line.

2.3 The pipes shall be made of wood or an approved metal or alloy and each shall be of not more than 3 inches (7.6 centimetres) square or equivalent circular cross section.
The material used and the shape shall be such as to prevent injury resulting from collision with them.
The pipes shall be painted orange or white and secured to the ground.
A line shall be drawn between the goal posts to indicate the plane of the goal, and it shall be designated the goal line.

2.4 The goal posts shall be:
- either sunk into the ground so that no ground pipes are used;
- or supported by flat metal bars, no more than 0.5 inches (1.27 centimetres) thick.
Goals should be constructed in a manner such that when a ball enters the goal
mouth and it is a goal, the ball shall not re-enter the field of play.
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Re: Rage Cage/Goals

Postby dblacklock Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:57 pm

Not as rare as you might think. I can think of 3 clubs here in the North (all Premier 1 Div.) where the goals are illegal and they have goals missed on a weekly basis. Whilst flat based goals do not guarantee that the ball will not bounce back out it sure reduces the likelihood by a significant %.

I believe that Rage Cage does a flat based version, or they can convert existing goals to a a flat base. You need to call Ray Harry in Hitchin who is the Rage Cage Rep to confirm this.
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