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World Cup 2014 Denver - Blue Division Schedule

Postby SIMO Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:30 am

FIL World Championship 2014 - Blue Division Schedule

Thursday 10th July
5.00pm Opening Ceremony
7.00pm USA v Canada

Friday 11th July
Late afternoon Australia v Japan
Evening England v Germany

Saturday 12th July
Afternoon Japan v Germany
Late afternoon Australia v USA
Evening Canada v England

Sunday 13th July
Afternoon Germany v Canada
Late afternoon England v Australia
Evening USA v Japan

Monday 14th July
Afternoon Japan v Canada
Late afternoon England v USA
Evening Germany v Australia

Tuesday 15th July
Afternoon Japan v England
Late afternoon USA v Germany
Evening Canada v Australia

Wednesday 16th July
Late afternoon Blue 3 v Qualifier 2
Evening Blue 4 v Qualifier 1

Thursday 17th July
Late afternoon Semi-final
Evening Semi-final

Saturday 19th July
Afternoon 5th / 6th place game
Late afternoon Bronze / 4th place
Evening Gold / Silver
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Re: World Cup 2014 Denver - Blue Division Schedule

Postby Moaning Git Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:20 pm

Is anyone clear how the rankings work for promotion in the divisions?

Assuming that England do not make the same errors in organisational knowledge as 2010 on paper they should end up in 3rd or 4th place fighting it out with the Aussies. The Iroquois will be seeking to regain their Blue Division status and I can't see anyone who can stop them topping their division. So is promotion decided on play offs, simple position, or some other system?
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Re: World Cup 2014 Denver - Blue Division Schedule

Postby davidmcculloch81 Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:06 pm

Moaning Git wrote:Is anyone clear how the rankings work for promotion in the divisions?

Assuming that England do not make the same errors in organisational knowledge as 2010 on paper they should end up in 3rd or 4th place fighting it out with the Aussies. The Iroquois will be seeking to regain their Blue Division status and I can't see anyone who can stop them topping their division. So is promotion decided on play offs, simple position, or some other system?


"errors in organisational knowledge"?

What do you mean by this?
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Re: World Cup 2014 Denver - Blue Division Schedule

Postby Moaning Git Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:39 pm

They were unclear at the time as to how the rankings worked and that impacted on their final position.
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Re: World Cup 2014 Denver - Blue Division Schedule

Postby the pom Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:47 am

a couple of quick questions.

1. how did not knowing how the structure worked affect their placing surely it was just on results and they had a different position to what they expected.
2. can the Iroquois if they top their group get in to the finals? I can see play in games mentioned.

It is a shame that the Iroquois are not in the top division.
It drops the standard of the blue division.
Creates a number of uneven games in the next division.(not as good to watch)
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Re: World Cup 2014 Denver - Blue Division Schedule

Postby davidmcculloch81 Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:48 pm

Correct pom. This is what I was coming to.

How would Management knowing how it all worked have changed England's final position?
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Re: World Cup 2014 Denver - Blue Division Schedule

Postby rpowell Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:14 pm

the pom wrote:2. can the Iroquois if they top their group get in to the finals? I can see play in games mentioned.

It is a shame that the Iroquois are not in the top division.
It drops the standard of the blue division.
Creates a number of uneven games in the next division.(not as good to watch)


Hi Pom

Yes, the Iroquois still have a route through to the final.

It won't necessarily mess up the numbers in other divisions - Blue will still be six teams, and below that will be a number of parallel divisions. How many groups, and how many teams in each is still up for grabs, depends on when they commit to going and pay deposits!
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Re: World Cup 2014 Denver - Blue Division Schedule

Postby the pom Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:30 am

sorry mate i meant uneven in skill not numbers.
League restructure I told you so 10/3/2011(looking good on this one)
Prem division to two leagues will result in the prem division failing and being combined with Nemla 22/3/2012
the proposed restructure to 8 teams in each prem league will only last a couple of years until it has to be restructured again due to teams dropping out. 13/12/2012
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Postby Dining Room Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:36 pm

maybe i'm just a bit romantic about the roots of the game - I was gutted not to see the Iroquois in Manchester.

......or maybe a pessimist who assumes the powers that be would prefer the Iroquois to remain an exhibit rather than serious contenders.

Whether it's nostalgia or the standard they play at - both say to me that they should be in the top games.
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Re: World Cup 2014 Denver - Blue Division Schedule

Postby Mr.Stanford Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:12 pm

So are the Iroquois unranked for not attending Manchester? Meaning they'll be seeded with other new teams like Guatemala and Costa Rica (if http://www.worldlacrosse2014.com/nations/index is to be believed).

This could be a slight ball ache if they ended up in the same group as some of the better lower division nations (scotland, Ireland, Netherlands, Wales etc) as a low ranked team. Those other teams can kiss their 1/2 place group finish goodbye.... although it would be fun... in a your my hero thanks for punching me in the face kind of way.
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Re: World Cup 2014 Denver - Blue Division Schedule

Postby Phil D Wed May 15, 2013 11:21 am

Just clocked this open letter to the FIL General Assembly on the main website. Seems incredibly harsh?

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Re: World Cup 2014 Denver - Blue Division Schedule

Postby the pom Wed May 15, 2013 12:34 pm

if the iroquois start in the bottom division and winn all their games can they progress to the top division?

how does it work? i have seen play in games mentioned.
League restructure I told you so 10/3/2011(looking good on this one)
Prem division to two leagues will result in the prem division failing and being combined with Nemla 22/3/2012
the proposed restructure to 8 teams in each prem league will only last a couple of years until it has to be restructured again due to teams dropping out. 13/12/2012
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Re: World Cup 2014 Denver - Blue Division Schedule

Postby stocklax26 Wed May 15, 2013 1:51 pm

I thought technically anyone has a shot at the championship?

From an England perspective its better for them to be re-introduced into the Blue Division, then you know where you stand.

You have to win two group games and and a play-in game (against someone who is not the Iroquois) and your in the semi-finals.
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Re: World Cup 2014 Denver - Blue Division Schedule

Postby the pom Mon May 20, 2013 1:17 pm

http://thailand.laxallstars.com/us-lacr ... ntroversy/

please see link to us lacrosse about this we should push that the ELA put out a similar statement.

get the FIL to change the decision
League restructure I told you so 10/3/2011(looking good on this one)
Prem division to two leagues will result in the prem division failing and being combined with Nemla 22/3/2012
the proposed restructure to 8 teams in each prem league will only last a couple of years until it has to be restructured again due to teams dropping out. 13/12/2012

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