Reentry and crease violations

[DanSawyer]

Red's keeper has the ball in the crease. He steps out and is promptly pushed, legally, back into his crease by a blue attackman. The keeper still has the ball. Before the ref can whistle, the blue attackman's momentum carries him into the crease as well.

Am I right that these are simultaneous technicals that cancel out, no time served and possession to red?

[dblacklock]

Dan, the first foul should have had a whistle so you basically ignore the second technical foul. Need to be quicker on the whistle!! A personal foul would then make it simultaneous.

[DanSawyer]

Thanks! That was my first thought and what I hoped it would be, but the more I thought about it the more I thought they were simultaneous! Coming at it again now, are they only simultaneous if you're playing on?