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Postby Delmonte Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:58 am

hey was just wondering what would it take for lacrosse to go pro in england?
I don't know the general steps sports have to take to turn pro and get money into the clubs and players getting paid.
I'm assuming fans are a big step and sponsorships.
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Postby UKLaxfan Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:28 pm

We are miles away from going pro anytime soon.

Fans / TV Coverge / Sponsorship

Are all hurdles to cross.

Never say never!

but I doubt it'll happen in my lifetime :(
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Postby UKLacrosse Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:59 pm

You forgot facilities..........the biggest hang up the game has in this country! Until we can play on a good surface and have stands where spectators can watch.........and oh, we'd need 10, 20 or 30 times as many people playing to even think we might get enough people to watch the games with parents, relatives, friends and neighbours. Sponsors would only get seriously interested once people are prepared to pay to come through the gate to watch, or pay to watch on TV, or both.
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Postby Delmonte Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:06 pm

hope it does happen in my lifetime, spose its down to us guys to spread the game and get this happening
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Postby Sour37 Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:17 pm

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Postby Tom_Southampton Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:12 pm

I wonder if by looking at when other sports in this country were at the stage we are at now we could get an idea. With the manchester area conection i guess pro lacrosse would perhaps have a lot in common with rugby league. having a core heartland and limited following outside of that. with growth in the south obviously things are not quite as bad as rugby league but there might be more parallels. eg league has different rules to what almost everyone else plays (Union) as does both the MLL and NLL pro leagues.
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Postby morrell_ben Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:47 am

i think by looking at many other threads in this forum you can find out TONS of reasons why it can't and won't go pro anytime soon!
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Postby UKLacrosse Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:52 pm

Rugby League had an appeal/ audience outside of the game which enabled it to go pro. That's similar in many ways to the NLL and why they get bigger crowds than MLL. Just go to a game and see that a lot of the crowd really have no direct link with the game or players etc. MLL get much smaller crowds because they haven't yet tapped into an audience outside of the game. The one exception to this may be in Denver this season where the crowds have been exceptional compared to all other venues.
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Postby Mr.Stanford Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:15 pm

number of players and skill being big handicaps here. Esp down south. Even though the game is growing here in terms of number of teams the skill is still low.

Even the best southern prem teams would get their asses handed to them by teams like Mersey, stockport, mellor... and the list goes on
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Postby Raptor_attack Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:46 pm

First you need 10 top teams all with players dedicated enough to give up well paid jobs to play and train every day of the week. THen find a huge number of sponsors and fans to bank role those clubs.

Once that happens, you can wave goodbye to the Bristish players, as the teams will import talent from the states where its better, has more experience and probably cheaper (good exchange rates at the moment).

The rest of the British lacrosse community can continue as before, playing lax every saturday with the dream of one day making it.

Not in my lifetime i feel. Live the dream
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Postby snooplax Thu Jul 06, 2006 7:51 pm

Dream on folks.

But a nice dream.
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Postby laxwill11 Thu Jul 06, 2006 7:55 pm

in the words of willy mason

'it may be a dream but its the only thing that can get me to sleep at night'
It's not the size of the dog in the fight...
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Postby christhatsme Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:31 am

Correct me if I am wrong but...

A good percentage of sport viewers are under 18

Under 18 lacrosse, is only really played at private schools - not much of an audience under 18

People who don't go to private schools, then might play at uni (but a very small percentage can actually be bothered/ want to)

if you target the young audience (under 18) and get lacrosse going down there, then it may take a kick start..
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Postby J-Lo Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:04 pm

according to David Shuttleworth we get something like 150,000+ children a year getting into pop/intercrosse*.

that should leave plenty of under 18s in the near future.

*taken from a breif interview with him about English Lacrosse on skysports
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Postby UKLacrosse Wed Jul 12, 2006 1:59 pm

150,000 is an interesting figure for non-field lacrosse.
Has anyone ever considered what that means? I presume its at primary school level. So a 4 year period at primary school means that 37,500 youngsters per year at age 11-12 either give it up or transfer to field lacrosse. Has anyone considered how many 11-13 year olds are playing field lacrosse? If 150,000 is an accurate figure then our ability to transfer those to field lacrosse is far worse than I ever imagined.

I was confronted at the German National Championships by a member of the German Lacrosse Federation who claimed that a member of the ELA told him that there are 30,000 playing lacrosse in the UK!! He believed it to be field lacrosse!!!
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Postby J-Lo Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:23 pm

here is the link, David piece about 100,000-150000 is about 3mins into it.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?&doci ... ROSSE&sb=1

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